West Yorkshire Combined Authority - Thursday 25 May 2023, 9:00am - West Yorkshire Combined Authority Webcasting

West Yorkshire Combined Authority
Thursday, 25th May 2023 at 9:00am 

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  6. Cllr Matthew Morley Wakefield Council
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Mayor Tracy Brabin - 0:00:00
Mayor Tracy Brabin - 0:00:07
lovely Good morning, everybody, thank you so much for coming and for joining us at this extra meeting of the Combined Authority and coming a little bit earlier than usual, and even though we've got a short agenda, we've a lot to get through so let's crack on or in any apologies.

1 Apologies for Absence

Yes, we've received apologies from Councillor Jeffery, Councillor Scullion and Mark Roberts Councillor Molly Councillor Swift and Monday ready attended as a substitute
apologies from Councillor Mulherin, Councillor Councillor Aston,
I believe we are expecting Councillor Firth as well,
but he is not here yet, so he may OK
says he's on his way at lovely Okido Key, so just want to say a few words about Calderdale council and the change in leadership roles affecting the CA membership at Calderdale annual meeting. May the SA 17th Wednesday 17th May it was agreed that J Councillor Jane Scullion would become leader of the council with Councillor Tim Swift as Deputy Leader, and consequently Calderdale have provided formal notification of a change of their CA membership, and substitute and Councillor Scullion will become the senior member Councillor Swift will become substitute, effective from today. Can I just say Councillor Swift is an incredible servant of Calderdale and West Yorkshire and played a key role in securing devolution that we have today. Can I put on my record my thanks for your service and for your wise advice

2 Declarations of Disclosable Pecuniary Interests

3 Exempt Information - Possible Exclusion of the Press and Public

over the last few years as mayor and excellent leadership on climate in the region as well. Fantastic leadership, thank you so much for your all, you've done. Councillor Scullion is familiar to all of us at the Combined Authority, having played an active role as Deputy Leader of Calderdale and I'm sure her she will continue her excellent work as Leader and can I also say how delighted I am we've another fabulous female leader join us in our region. Can this change be recorded in the minutes? Please? Thank you, OK, look at declarations of interest, none thank you. Moving on item 3 officers have identified Appendix 3 to agenda item 6 contains exempt information. If we agree, the press and public will be excluded from this item when we come to it, we're all in agreement. Thank you
brilliant and given that, given that I would propose that discussion of Item 6 is moved to the end of the agenda, just to help with our choreography,

4 Minutes of the Meeting of the Combined Authority held on 16 March 2023

Okido item at 4.00 minutes of the meeting of the Combined Authority, 16th March 2023,
turning to those minutes any comments or questions no lovely thank you and we can confirm these are an accurate record.

For Decision

5 Bus Service Improvement Plan - programme update

OK, OK, so the meat of the meeting for decision bus service improvement plan programme update this first item for discussion is an update on the delivery of the West Yorkshire Bus service improvement plan.
We all know it's an important item. We know local bus system is in need of immediate support to transform it to the standard of service. Local people expect and deserve, as well as respond to challenges facing it, like further service cuts by commercial operators, which are expected over the summer. I understand since the report was published, we've received further information from DETI about bus recovery, grant and funding to support the protection of the network. So on this point, if I can hand over to Councillor Hinchcliffe as chair of the transport committee and then over to Dave Haskins, interim director and SSR overview CYP, to provide an update, Councillor Hinchcliffe,
Alan Reiss, Director (West Yorkshire Combined Authority) - 0:03:43
thank you Mayor and yes, as you rightly say, this is much-needed revenue to support improved bus services in the region.
We've got the mayor's fare subsidy, which actually was brought in before the national programme
36 point 9 million pounds that has budgeted to cost and then offset new and improved services, and that is saw needed across the network at the moment we all know that with the government cuts we've had before services have suffered and we're really wanting to see
Cllr Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Bradford Council) - 0:04:16
improvement not detriment services. So there's 30.38 point 9 million pounds to spend on bus services this paper updates on the latest, which is the enhanced bus services in across three routes and should been announced this morning, which is just about 4.2 m the still quite a lot to go out there also we know across the region we need to see improvement and I'd say Wakefield is one of those places where particular King to see additional bus services when they've had so many cuts recently, but it is an issue across the region. about cut backs and, as you say, there was an announcement earlier this week. We have been very hand to mouth information coming out of d f t on buses and makes planning very, very difficult, so we're still working through this latest information, but they officer Dave Haskins will be able to provide the meter with more information on that. Thank you.
Thank you for that overview and of two days.
Mayor Tracy Brabin - 0:05:07
OK, I'll say so very briefly, about the the announcement came up from
Dave Haskins - 0:05:11
the F T last week, as cost Hinchcliffe said that announcement came out, just as we were going to to publish the papers, so unfortunately we went out to private detail in those papers we have briefed brief to the members and attendees and meeting on with a briefing paper from this already I'll go through the key points from that mark up making outs from last week. in effect, at the broader picture is going to continue provide 200 million, continue capping single bus fares at 2.00 pound outside London, the end of October, and then at 2.00 pound 50, until the end of November 24.
the Faroes our masters initiative introduced, is funded through bees' programme, and the government announcement thus does not necessarily apply to West Yorkshire, because separate decisions can be made and thus timescales and costs, but we will be working through the ramifications of that announcement in respect of that over the coming period not come back to that or the other element is that 160 million pounds will be provided to local transport authorities to improve their services and infrastructure at 140 to go direct to operators health, protect essential services and that's spread over this financial year and the next financial year. So prior to announcement, bus operators in West Yorkshire, Yorkshire and, as you said, are poised to reduce some services commensurate with the loss of funding. They were anticipating before this announcement as the date they welcome. The this we understand they welcome the certainty that the funding comes in announcement but have advised that it's still last no receiving and they still may need to reduce some costs and services. Again when we're awaiting some confirmation for the operators around what that means
in broad terms. What we're intending to do here is the approvals of the the projects that Councillor Hinchcliffe was just mentioning. We'll go forward for approval at Transport Committee tomorrow and the intention is to work with Transport Committee members over the coming month
to work through the ramifications of what these funding announcements mean, in particular in the context of the service enhancements that we're looking to bring in across West Yorkshire, to ensure that they are focused in the right areas and the context around the trances of those as well, which is important. We need to get some immediate money in and do something really quickly, but we need to plan quite strategically around what happens next in the context of whether your places may or may not respond
thank you so much, and it just shows that hand-to-mouth Nato funding
Mayor Tracy Brabin - 0:07:30
is definitely not the most efficient way to do it, opening up to any comments, yes, Councillor morning.
Cllr Cllr Matthew Morley - 0:07:40
thank you Susan, for that acknowledgment of Wakefield now dire we are in wakeful Yung, you are very much aware of, so you Tracey so any intervention any elder, we couldn't get to get to them buses and we've lost over the last two to three years, we've been immensely helpful just to make sure that we get our fair share because it is dire out there whose will and most top complacent again of the council's local members so, yeah, it's what needs to happen just to help us all be much appreciated. Thank you,
thank you
Mayor Tracy Brabin - 0:08:13
lots of support for you in Wakefield regarding the bus cuts any further comments, yes, Councillor calls,
thank you obviously welcome the report and welcome the DETI
Cllr Cllr Rebecca Poulsen - 0:08:21
announcement on further funding and support coming in from the government action
just on the patronage figures it says in report, 85% were out at the moment it's at hold level or are they sort of still creeping up bit by bit so where are we on that and Ossie pre covered as a comparison?
my understanding of the Qatar today person is telling us there is
Dave Haskins - 0:08:46
holding level, it's got upset figure, it has been creeping up gradually, but it seems to have stabilised around 35% of months.
any further comments, no Councillor Firth.
Mayor Tracy Brabin - 0:08:58
Cllr Cllr Sam Firth - 0:09:01
thank you, Chair, and apologies for my late this unfortunate that our transport system for you.
the point is to point to one says the data suggests a growth in patronage in the final quarter of 2022, as well as changes to commuting patterns and the problem. I have with particular report, although we welcome it is there is very little data to actually compare or contrast how much of a growth that actually is as Councillor Paulson has said, is there any chance that in this meeting can actually provide? the quantity and actually the figures compared to the previous quarter, or actually, potentially, where that should be given that what are the trends for the year to be projected because he's just making a general assumption rather than backing out with any evidence
yes, Dave Haskins.
Mayor Tracy Brabin - 0:09:47
yeah, we were not able to provide that information immediately. We are undertaking work at the moment to understand more detail around how
Dave Haskins - 0:09:51
that how that is all playing out. It's fair to say, I think, do you have to publish something end of last week, which a few people got their hopes up, that there would be a bit more analysis in F and D F T around the around the impacts, but it's not a not lot detail in that. As things stand, I don't think we're in any different place to the rest of the country, consenting analysis undertaken,
it's a complex area to look at and take a look at time but we are working on that over the summer.
Mayor Tracy Brabin - 0:10:18
Councillor Leadley. we don't depend on the bus operators or not as
Alan Reiss, Director (West Yorkshire Combined Authority) - 0:10:21
well, for providing their dates and is commercially sensitive data, so it's not all within the gift of a local of the Combined Authority Councillor for
thank you very much indeed Chair, and that point. I think that making
Cllr Cllr Sam Firth - 0:10:32
general assumptions we've got to be very careful and I think certainly would be helpful when we're making such a significant decision, to say the least, I think when it comes to looking at more generally, look at the figures that were provided in the rest of the port about the be simply J, I appreciate I missed some of a discussion. There is a discussion there about taking down or drawing down 6.2 million from the blue CYP for new and improved services, including 4.2 million fully enhanced bus services and 3 million of that is put out there for in terms of dealing with particular services that we don't actually know which services we need to enhance or improve. Can I ask, will that be enough or how is that figure being made re reached in terms of working it out,
Dave
Dave Haskins - 0:11:16
that 3 million is the first tranche of of money that can be drawn down from PCEP militants. Drawdown further tranches later in the year as well, and the money that the figure has been arrived at what the global figure has been derived from the amounts of money that we we rewarded through PCEP overall, for the investment in bus services to 31 million pounds. The speed at which we can move
does depend where we are. We are in the hands of what the responsive bus operators are, we don't we can't move too quickly, we need to win to work, we need to move quickly, but we are confident that within June we will get to that point of understanding what the first tranches gonna be working closely with the district and working closely with members,
thank you, Councillor Pandor
yeah, and May
Mayor Tracy Brabin - 0:11:58
I think Councillor First Minister invalid point, but
Cllr Shabir Pandor (Kirklees Council) - 0:12:02
when I talk to my residents,
progress speak to.
numbers, buses, or so I understand what you say, regarding more data, I think, from my point of view, I think
the data settles in, but the quality of the the deep feelings in the community that we were buses that connected a lot better than they are at the moment we talk about trains actually, buses are probably the the arteries in the veins of communities and
not vulnerable people, young people, you know connecting from a school to a college, everything else
and that's what we have as elected members have got a better grasp of, and we really want money which is which is a given
but I think I think we welcome this money that's coming forward, but I think
they try and do everything we can to lobby government to make sure that you know we collectively, as a combined authority, do the best for residents, unless rampant from banks
Mayor Tracy Brabin - 0:13:02
and we have the voice of the passenger army, OK, thank you so much
moving on are we happy to
I note the progress being made in delivering the bus service improvement and decisions made are due to be made by Transport Committee tomorrow to respond to the immediate challenges facing the bus industry.

6 Bus Reform

7 West Yorkshire Plan

Good stuff. Thank you all so much righto let's move on to where West Yorkshire plan item 7, really pleased to see this is here today for our endorsement. This plan tells a story of West Yorkshire, bringing together a shared vision, narrative and ambitions for the region, setting the trajectory for the long term, up to 2040. It's aspirational and ambitious and brings to life who we are, what we want to do and how our heritage is supporting our future. It's been co-produce with partners, most notably local authorities, but has also been wide engagement from Combined Authority committee members, business groups, universities and other local and regional stakeholders. Central to this plan are five missions that are aspirational and represent an ultimate ambition for West Yorkshire, a state of the region. Reporting will continue to provide the monitoring framework underpinning the West Yorkshire plan targets and wider policies and strategies of the Combined Authority. This plan will strengthen our existing policy framework and sit at the top of a suite of policies and strategies aligned to areas of delivery and include the Local Transport Plan, the economic strategy, which is in development, and the police and crime plan, where planning to launch the plan officially on the 16th of June, and I hope everyone round this table is able to come. Can I pass on to Alan writes for further points?
Thank you very much only to add to what you've said that
Alan Reiss, Director (West Yorkshire Combined Authority) - 0:14:44
this her this plan comes to you after several months of consultation with all committee members and a range of stakeholders from across the region, so previous iterations of it were published for each of the Committees of the Combined Authority and we've received a wide range of comments and some fantastic engagement, both from from elected members and from private sector members across all of our Committees and their comments have been
reflected in the in the plan that you see here today in terms of reporting against emissions, which I'm sure would be a question, and the mayor has alluded to this
Alan Reiss, Director (West Yorkshire Combined Authority) - 0:15:25
sorry, we are. However, we already have, over the last couple of years, published a state of the region document which sets out the progress the region is making against a range of social, environmental and economical economic indicators, and the intention is that that will be used to report progress against the plants over the coming over the coming years,
so very happy to take any questions that Members may have. Thank
Mayor Tracy Brabin - 0:15:51
you. Thank you and we did have a very soft launch of the plan at UK ref and it went down really well that the whole of our tent was full of people interested to see. all local authority leaders talking together about the vision for 2040,
happy to accept the plan,

8 Director appointments

any comments, good stuff, thank you, OK, do so, moving on now to direct roles and appointments, this paper is
on re, new roles and appointments can ask Ben to talk us through this. Please thank you,
thank you Chair for this this paper captures
following the delegation that was given at the last common authority
Ben Still, Chief Executive (West Yorkshire Combined Authority) - 0:16:27
in March he captures, puts on record of the decisions that you, as committee members have taken during that period of time and and puts
therefore, the paper brings forward those appointments for endorsement.
The, I don't PA, to go through this in in detail, I guess the high-level point that I would make a twofold one, one, that this is a time of unprecedented change for the Combined Authority and we've been talking about the changes to the structure and the the and the and the culture of the organisation needed to to make it fit for purpose and and to be able to deliver the policies needed for West Yorkshire over the coming years. It's we'd be talking about that for a year, and this is the the the kind of a key milestone with those some of the senior appointments, and the second is that's particularly
significant in the in, in terms of transport, where the the conversation and the the state of the bus industry or work on mass transit has been that we've looked
quite comprehensively at the way that we're organised to deliver those transport, deliver the developers, transport policies and deliver those transport programmes.
so while there are a number of appointments here for endorsement, please don't think that this has dented the story and I fully expect that will be needed to make further changes as our programmes develop overtime,
so I'll stop there.

For Information

6 Bus Reform

Mayor Tracy Brabin - 0:17:57
thank you. Thank you so much and we're happy to approve those recommendations. Good stuff, thank you OK, moving onto bus reform item 6 as we agreed this item contains an exempt appendix we can discuss the content of the public report, but must go into closed session for any discussion in relation to the exempt information. Returning back to the public session, to consider the recommendations and make our decision, can I ask Members to please therefore limit their comments and questions to the public information at this stage? If Members then wish to go into a closed session, I'll ask the press and the public to leave the room and for the webcasting to be paused. So this item is about bus reform. Today is another step in the process of us, considering the options that can match our ambitions for London-style bus network. As we've discussed earlier, the current commercial system has challenges and is increasingly reliant on public funding support. As we discussed at a meeting in March, the Combined Authority has been working on its bus reform assessment of a number of months, and it's now at a stage where we, as a Combined Authority, can decide if we are content for it to move into the audit phase. This isn't a final decision on bus reform, which we would only come to after the audit and following a full public consultation that final decision will be taken next March and will be fully informed by the next stage of the process. At this stage, the assessment concludes that franchising is the preferred option for the Combined Authority to progress with subject with subject to both the audit and outcome of the consultation according to the assessment, but the enhanced partnership plus and franchising would deliver benefits.
dozing offers clear strategic benefits and greater opportunities to achieve its objectives for reform, there are, however, additional risks and responsibilities for the Combined Authority if proceeding with franchising and capital investment would be needed under all options, the modelling of the assessment suggests patronage will come.
and on public funding support, we are continuing to work with operators on what can be achieved through an enhanced partnership model,
as well as consider whether to progress toward it. On the assessment, it's also asked to approve the supporting funding approval. Can I pass over to Councillor Hinchcliffe, as chair of the transport committee for any further comments and then over to Ben still chief executive of the Combined Authority?
Thank you Mayor. So we have ambitious plans for bus in our region, set
Alan Reiss, Director (West Yorkshire Combined Authority) - 0:20:39
out in a bus service improvement plan, recognising the crucial role
Cllr Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Bradford Council) - 0:20:44
bus plays for everyday connectivity, as well as in supporting the region's economic growth and decarbonisation and place-making,
the current bus system is not delivering with a variety of customer and market challenges demonstrated through both long-term patronage and network managed decline, but reform is required in order to achieve our bus objectives with the current enhanced partnership, not delivering the pace and scale of change required for customers to counteract the challenges the bus system faces across West Yorkshire.
for the benefit of bus customers. Bus reform options would involve interventions, including network enhancements in prefers, integrated tickets, streamlined customer service, better, align bus priority and greener buses to improve the bus passenger experience and address the challenges facing the existing bus system. The assessment demonstrates a contribution to our objectives set out in our Local Transport Plan and Bus Service Improvement Plan that bus reform can offer, showing a straight clear strategic benefit to our region. There is, however, no silver bullet. Governance mechanisms and the assessment recognises that without further investments, passenger numbers will still decline in line with long-term trends, but that franchising would slow that, to the greater extent than other options franchising can deliver strategic benefits beyond that of a people US, allowing control and certainty of the bus network and flexibility and network planning. There are also clear customer benefits under franchising through providing a simplified fares and ticketing and customer service offers. It is recognised that franchising brings with it additional risks and the need for capital. Investment for assets at his White is important that we consider carefully the benefits and risks of the different options, and to have these audited and subject to consultation, before taking a decision. Thank you.
thank you, that's very clear,
other any comments on the appendices.
Mayor Tracy Brabin - 0:22:33
because we will have to go into closed session if so.
no.
great stuff that will keep it as an open session, any comments, Councillor Firth, you had your hand up and Councillor Hollingsworth.
but
it.
Cllr Cllr Sam Firth - 0:22:51
Councillor Firth could use another microphone please.
Mayor Tracy Brabin - 0:23:04
he had a
lovely.
Cllr Cllr Rebecca Poulsen - 0:23:07
it would seem to have been some technical issues today, but we'll get there, having come through the transport system today and listened to BBC Radio Leeds. To an extent, I have to say at the Chair of the Authority made it quite clear that the preferred option is to go with
Cllr Cllr Sam Firth - 0:23:20
franchising, and one thing that we can certainly say throughout the majority of this report is the fact of we have two options. One is preferable and one is largely covered. There is limited look at the EPI plus option compared to that of franchising, as a result, is there any chance we can clarifying this meeting? The cost for both programmes should either go ahead.
OK, so this is going to a closed session, thank you
Mayor Tracy Brabin - 0:23:54
if we could ask the members of the public to leave, please and Javid, could you join us, please?
preferred to go back to live-streaming place.

6 Bus Reform

Mayor Tracy Brabin - 0:24:04
OK, we're now back into our public session. so, on the bus reform
Mayor Tracy Brabin - 0:24:35
assessment, can we note the conclusions, recommendations included within the assessment and indicatively approved the assessment for audit delegating finalisation of the assessment to the Chief Executive,
yes.
in favour.
thank you.
against,
thank you and on the bus reform programme approved the recommendations in relation to the scheme include the Combined Authority's funding contribution in favour
against.

9 Minutes for information

abstentions 1 thank you. Thank you moving on from the item to the final part of the meeting and there are minutes for information. Can I thank everybody for their contribution today. I know this was an extraordinary meeting and so grateful that people have taken the time in their busy diaries to to join us. Can I just before we end the meeting, give my thanks to Dave Pearson, who
our director of transport operations and passenger experience, or whose this is the last meeting before well deserved retirement, and can I thank you specifically about the work that you did during the pandemic. I do remember one very
febrile day when we were deciding whether masks on buses and in bus stations or not, but you shunning honest leadership during a very difficult period, so thank you so much, Dave I wonder if you wanted to say some,
yes, thank you.
For those kind words, I mean it's been a privilege to serve you and to
Dave Pearson, Director (West Yorkshire Combined Authority) - 0:26:07
serve the people of West Yorkshire in this job, and it's particularly
sort of poignant really to to leave at this particular moment with the decision you just taken, so thank you all for for that one, I think I'll leave you in good hands, thank you
and Jenji lets, it thank you
for wanting to work with day since I first got elected over 20 years ago,
Andy to thank you for all your contributions,
Cllr James Lewis (Leeds City Council) - 0:26:30
the there's a number of bus services with Councillor Firth, either number 64 through baroque and apathy I think we spent 20 years in meetings about an wish and just
yeah and just.
to wish you well in in in in your retirement and for all the work you've done for everybody in West Yorkshire and all
I know your commitment to the travelling public has been really strong over that time.
Councillor Hinchcliffe,
I've been in denial, some time is going to be quite honest as Sheffield Transport Committee, I think you are going to there tomorrow you know today.
Mayor Tracy Brabin - 0:27:02
Alan Reiss, Director (West Yorkshire Combined Authority) - 0:27:05
just checking out of the transport committee tomorrow, the life goes on re March on England, you can be there, so thank you very much day for all you've done, I'm sure the more thank use tomorrow
Cllr Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Bradford Council) - 0:27:12
but obviously your steady hand on navigating us through the bus services West Yorkshire has been very valued and we shall miss you greatly. Thank you,
thank you and I think if you want one illustration of how the work is still undone, certainly 64 is it.
Dave Pearson, Director (West Yorkshire Combined Authority) - 0:27:29
on that no day, thank you all so much, and the next meeting is the 22 of June, thank you all for coming and thank you for your contributions.