Transport Committee - Friday 7 July 2023, 10:00am - West Yorkshire Combined Authority Webcasting

Transport Committee
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Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:00:00
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:00:02
it's a good point is obviously says a newly formed transport committee for a new civic year and we should probably introduce each other to each other,
and so we all know who we are where we come from,
so I will start, my name is Susan Hinchcliffe and I am the leader of Bradford council and the chair of West Yorkshire Transport Committee
will go to Council its first so Councillor Kaushiq.
Morning everyone Minuta Kaushik, from good glues and Deputy Chair on
Cllr Manisha Roma Kaushik - 0:00:34
the transport committee.
Gallo, from Leeds on the other Deputy Chair of the Transport Committee.
Cllr Abdul Hannan - 0:00:48
Councillor up until hammam, we see a council heading and Hancock.
Cllr Liz Rowe - 0:00:53
literary councillor in Bradford in Windhill Wrose,
Councillor Eric, Firth Catholics council commitment transport
Scott patient
Cllr Scott Patient - 0:01:05
Calderdale council, cabinet member for climate change, housing and active travel recently changed.
Councillor Colin Hutchinson from skeleton combo,
Cllr Colin Hutchinson - 0:01:17
Cllr Matthew Morley - 0:01:20
Councillor Monken Wakefield district councillor, representing Normington,
Councillor Peter Clarke, Bradford Council.
Cllr Peter Clarke - 0:01:27
Cllr Neil Buckley - 0:01:29
Councillor Neil Buckley from Audley Ward Leeds,
and Councillor Chris Hayden from Bradford
Councillor Ahmed, on what Dewsbury West Coakley's?
Cllr Ammar Anwar - 0:01:40
councillor Oliver Edwards, guy seem roads in Leeds City Council.
Jacob Williamson, councillor from Wakefield,
Cllr Annie Maloney - 0:01:50
I have one Councillor Anthony Beeston Holbeck Ward in late.
Cllr Jakob Williamson - 0:01:55
Good morning, everyone, Councillor Matthew McLoughlin from the Colne Valley, ward in curtains.
Cllr Matthew McLoughlin - 0:02:01
and Councillor Helen Hayden from Leeds executive member for sustainable development and infrastructure.
Cllr Helen Hayden - 0:02:08
lovely thank you, so there's a few maxims down there, the sounds of it
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:02:13
all that's ref anyway we'll keep working on that, presumably
so not officers, so who you.
the impact of an IT services officer of a combat authority.
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:02:25
come on everybody, on Simon Warburton, an executive director of transport, here at the Combined Authority.
Simon Warburton - 0:02:32
moaning I'm Melanie Corker and director of transport policy and delivery.
many are like Hoskins and ancient director of transit operations,
Dave Haskins - 0:02:42
passenger experience covering passenger experience and head of assets.
Good morning, Mick Bunton, interim director of transport operations
Mr Mick Bunting - 0:02:50
and passenger experience covering mobility, services and transformation.
Good morning my name's Rachel Jones and I'm the interim head of transport policy.
Rachel Jones - 0:03:00
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:03:06
flip thank you very much to all those officers. also work intensively on transport, cross, rail and bus across West Yorkshire, and are here to advise us and take us through some of the papers here today. A West Yorkshire Transport Committee, as you will see, is made up from all parts of West Yorkshire really important actually to hear those voices where massive plays will 2.3 million people we have rural urban no valleys, hills flat bits, whole points in between, so we have a very diverse place and obviously our ambition is to make sure that we're all connected, because it supports our people, lead healthy lives and also our businesses to thrive. So are apologies for absence. An apology,

1 Apologies for absence

yes, though we've had apologies from Councillor Bolt, Councillor
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:03:49
Caffrey, Councillor Ross, Shah and Councillor Salam,
thank you very much. Declarations of disclosable pecuniary interests. Anybody

2 Declarations of disclosable pecuniary interests

Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:03:56
no.

3 Exempt information - possible exclusion of the press and public

4 Minutes of the meeting of the Transport Committee held on 26 May 2023

Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:04:03
excellent will do this as anything throughout the meeting due, please be aware of that and you can declare throughout the meeting if you wish to exempt information, I don't think we have noted I have read and minutes of the meeting of Transport Committee on 26 of May
so. also, those meetings minutes had been circulated, also ref, we've had a bit of a turnover on the committee, as is normal on a civic year turn.
but for those Members who were there as en route, any comments are
yes, Councillor Firth,
Cllr Eric Firth - 0:04:35
literature, I did raise the point about the Blacks Leeds and about who owned the
insurance cover
never got an answer, because if somebody knocks someone down and a
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:04:46
lady who is responsible is the person driving and the person owns and my colleagues at council
so Councillor Firth was at that not not in the minutes then is that what you're saying
I ask a question, but it's not in the minutes I did receive an answer either
so we've expunged her question and therefore the action
as it began to. answer immediately, or is that something we can commit to come back to very quickly
if we commit to circulate a note on the stroke with advice, I imagine that there are
Cllr Eric Firth - 0:05:16
specific provisions within the membership or arrangements, so we'll extract those and secure sure that there is important that we all know, and the public at large know,
absolutely it's weird there's some learning coming from Manchester on
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:05:29
this as well, at the moment I noticed a articles in the press this week and so thank you, if you get that within well, can we get that by Monday to members because obviously that is something that's outstanding, thank you
anything else through those minutes Councillor,
booklet I
thank you Chair.
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:05:51
actually it was on the same subject by coincidence, page 7 of the
Cllr Neil Buckley - 0:05:56
minutes on E bikes, it says that the operator will receive 25% of the profits,
and I had a briefing on this the other day from the officer in charge of the scheme in Leeds and she said that the operator would receive 75% of the profits and 25% would go to Leeds for reinvestment in the scheme,
so that's a difference.
McCarthy of
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:06:27
yes, I would suggest that actually the company you're making the investment, probably your figures sound accurate to me, Councillor Buckley, that I would imagine they were making most profit if if it's not our main expense but that again needs confirming so or anything else us e back seems to have been a bit of a mess up there in terms of what we said in that meeting, so can we just clarify Councillor Buckley's point there and answer Councillor first question?
anything else we've missed,

5 Bus Service Improvement Plan Update

no, while other than those two points, are we happy to accept those minutes as a correct record, subject to that change, yeah, thank you very much, lovely, thank you, so next item on the agenda is at bus service improvement plan update now this is as multiple strands to this. John start on Bisset new enhanced
that's me, thank you very much, Chair right, OK, yes, OK, so it's quite a long report.
Rachel Jones - 0:07:35
and quite a lot of information in it, as Councillor Hinchcliffe has just alluded to so the purpose of the report is to update Transport Committee on the state of the bus network and the proposed approach to using both be CIT money to manage this and also to seek approval to the delegation for the approval of just over 3.8 million pounds of what's called basic plus funding to the interim director of transport operations and passenger experience mobility services and transformation to respond to immediate challenges around the bus network and including service protection. as they write over the coming financial year, so very quickly, in the report, section 2, the stop provides a sort of recap and the fat ground off of the be sip
in terms of what is set out to date.
adjust our attentions to point 6,
which was at the last meeting of this committee, where approval was given to the development in initial DDA delivery costs of up to around 6.2 3 million pounds and that was to fund some further development work and importantly 3 million pounds part tranche 1 of B CYP Bus Network protection and quick win enhancements and then there was 4.2 3 million almost far enhance bus services to. so then, from 2 section 2.7 onwards, there's an update provided around the sort of current network instability that we're facing with you know, within the so commercially primarily commercially operated
bus industry, you know are fully aware of the impacts of the Covid pandemic and the cost of living crisis of costs as well and the impact that's had on the bus bus industry and bus network and that's resulted as at 2.00.10 in a number of changes to a number of services across West Yorkshire.
and you know, all of this has resulted in an increase of tendered service, spend that the combined authorities iSoft faced over over the last few years,
so from 2.1 3 onwards, the report talks about changes to the funding and at the last meeting of this committee there was a verbal discussion about this because the announcement had only just been made just before the committee meeting, so this paper sets out detail in writing around that and the fact that you know the middle of May government announced the replacement of this off funding mechanism about around bus recovery, grants and sovereigns, replacing that with different methods of providing grant, with grants to operators across two financial years, and also to authorities, so is it set in 2.1 4, nearly 3.9 million has been awarded to the Combined Authority or will be awarded to the Combined Authority to protect some services this financial year and we're expecting something similar next year as well, but we haven't had confirmation of that as yet
as we understand it, the operators of what they received by way of this new mechanism is around 50 to 60% of the previous
support that was provided through government, so we're obviously of the common authority we're working to understand the full anticipate anticipated changes as a result of this and you know that is likely to result in in in March changes
and we are continually working with the operators to try and get them to defer any changes or cuts, and until September 2023,
so where we are, then, in terms of funding and availability, section 2.1 9 onwards, and that clearly sets out what the Combined Authority must act to do in the context of all of this around continuing to provide those socially necessary services around restoring and stabilising the network from further cuts and also as in line with the BBC and objectives around that sort of enhancement and growing of the network.
so table one, so it sets out the different funding pots that are available
at this time and how we saw are going to try and sort utilise those and work across the partnership and with the bus industry to sort of implement that
section 2.2 to summarises the workshop that was held around a month ago,
with the transport committee and the this of key messages coming out of that as well, so moving on then in terms of the this, our networks, PA and network transformation criteria
it's not looking at and recognising the the needs, both balance transformation through the BCF money whilst also looking at a towel, so we protect and and support the existing network as it stands and using those different pots of money in order to do that,
and so there's are some criteria that's been proposed that set out in table 2 of the report.
which is looking at how the intention is to approach that around growing and improve in while, at the same time, sort of protecting and and supporting. So the next steps,
following on in the reports, are all looking at how we sought looking to do that, so we're obviously working with bus operators now to fully understand the implications of the upcoming service changes and how best to deploy that circa 3.8 million 3 BC plus money. That's recently been announced to us, and if you call it the Mayor's Transport Committee, what we're hoping to do as well with the Bisset money that the 3 million pounds that you approved last year at your last meeting, we're looking to agree with the Combined Authority Chief Executive, in consultation with the Mayor and the Transport Committee, the specific services that will be
so contracted with that first tranche of money and we're hoping to have those operational from the autumn this year. We're also working on a business case to secure a second tranche of BBC money to similar value to the first tranche,
to again provide some further enhancements to services from quarter 1 in 2024, and finally, at 2.00.3, then we were actively in discussions with operators around the enhanced bus services schemes that you approved at the last meeting and the fog around 4.3 million pounds with a view to also getting those schemes up and running from the autumn and at the same time we're exploring with an operators and and Wakefield council around looking at some of its our remaining money within that pots
and looking at potential schemes in the Wakefield area.
finally, the final bit of the that the sort of section 2 just gives you an update on some of the wider elements of B, certainly there's a lot of activity going on beyond the bus network as well, obviously there was an approval last time round to continue with the mayor's fares until at least March next year and some funding approved for that we are from October hoping to have a number of BCF funded police community support officers
officers
at deployed at bus stations across West Yorkshire. and there's obviously quite a lot going on around investment in the capital, investment in improvements in the highway network and as part buses, and improve reliability and connectivity, so moving to the recommendations at section 10,
10.1 that the Transport Committee endorses the approach and further developing the bus network plan, as set out in the report,
in order to sell, continue to provide the socially necessary connectivity to restart, stabilise and protect the network from further cuts, but also around enhancement and growing the network, in line with those different funding sources at 10.00.2 that the Transport Committee approves delegation on the just just over 3.8 million basic plus, which is new funding.
That's we understand, we're going to be in receipt of one day of tea and that approval for how that money you spend is delegated to the interim Director of Transport. UPS and passenger experience, mobility, services and transformation in consultation with the partner councils for this financial year and then finally at 10.00.3 that the Transport Committee notes the next steps for delivery of the bus network plan and the wider B-side programme updates. Thank you very much. Chair
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:15:57
thank you very much first of all, and thank you to officers for trying to obviously make sure that the services keep going as comprehensively as possible across the network, in spite of these government cuts, so he could see coming down the line all the time because obviously, but it is something that all our residents and businesses rely on absolutely to get around every day and therefore you know it's imperative that you keep doing that work to keep the services as comprehensive as possible, we don't yet have this 3.8 million that we'd been promised, so we were actually a prudent and we don't have yet doing there when government are actually gonna give us this and whether there's any confirmation of the amounts and
and officers do have a meeting in the next week or so with Department
Rachel Jones - 0:16:40
for Transport, so we're hoping we'll get some clarity around that then.
this is part of the problem that we just can't plan ahead, because we
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:16:48
never know what we're going to get when we're gonna get it.
and all the way along since the pandemic, it is very much hand to mouth trying to plan a transport network, and that's no way to run an economy in West Yorkshire, Councillor Cowell, the digital to coin first on this matter.
I come back, I think you've covered the majority with Joe, I think.
Cllr Peter Carlill - 0:17:07
what we really need is for that money to come through, to start building back what we want, which is stability in the network, to allow us to move forward, unfortunately, all the time there's been the delay in knowing that funding we have lost other services and though many of you have had e-mails and responded and come back to me with concerns from residents about services that have been lost over over the last while
you'll note in the report that,
operators have informed us that they are now receiving almost half the amount of money that they were before it is that top up? Obviously, inflation has gone on be on that to their cost of services going up his, it is their view yet that the amount of funding they've got has decreased.
We have, therefore, because we haven't got this funding, asked all operators to delay those changes over the summer. I think it notes in the report. Obviously there are 70 plus changes already happened over the last 18 months and they will have to go into consideration of services. We bring back but it's my understanding that, from speaking to operators almost as many of that are at risk,
some of those have been made by operators ahead of that the request we made, but I do thank officers who have ensured that the majority of those have been postponed to allow us to get access to this money to see if we can at least have a stable network that then we can build on top of, unfortunately we as yet don't know exactly when that money will come through.
thank you, Councillor Carla and I've got Councillor Edwards first.
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:18:35
thank you, Chair Amina I'd also like to put on record my appreciation
Cllr Oliver Edwards - 0:18:42
of the work that officers are doing to realise that it's very difficult planning with something that keeps changing and where there's all the uncertainty, and this is particularly important in my wards and also in other outer needs wards as well so one of the services that Councillor Khalil
mentions where the operator did not delay the change was the 27 and and so for myself and other ward councillors be seen countless we've had countless examples of people whose lives have been completely disrupted people who can no longer get to work
essential workers.
people working in the night-time economy students and this decision has really impacted a lot of people's lives, it's also left communities without any alternative bus provision at many times of the day,
and so I recognise the work is being done, but that's of no comfort to residents who've lost services and what's also particularly disappointing in the case of first is that they posted profits last year of 82.1 million which I understand was double what they had the previous year.
before that, how can help how can we justify that, how can that be justified to my residents and other residents across West Yorkshire, and who's seeing these essential services cut and with very little regards
from the companies
about the absolutely devastating impact that that has on people,
thank you, Councillor Edwards, I'll take some more before coming back to officers Councillor Firth.
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:20:21
thank you Chair
very much on the same point,
Cllr Eric Firth - 0:20:27
people know that we represent.
I will have an understanding of what we do and and the constant battle that we have or would have transport providers.
we're gonna little local councillors who are Potter, welcome a lot of heat
from colleagues,
so in order to explain this better.
I contacted my colleague Amanda
to organise the first of our district meetings to be held in
incur claims as soon as possible, so we can better explain what we're doing. and what's what they are doing, what they are doing to us and of course
the bus companies will be invited.
just to make a point of information, I think you'd like to know, and I'm sure other colleagues feel the same way because your residents, your constituents
and in the dark as well you know so, so let's tell them what we do it they still in how we do it.
we've got some great offices, by the way, or really really working hard to maintain what we've got, but it's important that the public out there know what we're doing on their behalf, it was officers and us as members, thank you Chair,
thank you, Councillor Firth and Councillor Hutchinson.
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:21:46
recognising the problems of working with the Hand to Mouth
Cllr Colin Hutchinson - 0:21:51
just-in-time delivery of funding on planning services, it's still no.
comfort to the people of a large swathe of north Halifax, where very deprived communities live, where lots of people work in the health, social care, night-time economy
to have the
the bus services after 9 pm.
cut from that whole area. We're putting in capital funding for a new bus stop bus station, which which serves that area, the A6 to 9 improvement for bus priority, Rauf north of Halifax, and yet the people of Hovenden and Illingworth lose their last their only bus service as a result of the cuts that have been put in place from from the beginning of this week.
It really does make it, it makes our balance, you know, we're trying to stimulate bus number bus passenger numbers by increase improving the infrastructure, but the service that they're seeing is deteriorating.
This goes against investment Policy 5 and it goes against the network support criteria in table 2
in section 2.2 5 and it does contrary to the report, it does have implications for equality and diversity, particularly for people who are visually impaired, who have no.
who, by definition, can't drive, they lose their only public transport, means to get to to get to and from the centre of centre of Halifax, thank you Chair,
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:23:44
thank you, Councillor Hutchinson, yes, concerns noted really and I think that's something you probably can replicated all across the region will have
instances which are similar to those who outlined their Councillor McLoughlin
thank you, Chair and I'd totally like to echo the comments made by all
Cllr Matthew McLoughlin - 0:23:58
my previous colleagues, firstly thanking the officers and Councillor Cowell for the extremely important work that they are doing the hard work. It's an unenviable task, even with a co-operative government, it will be an unenviable task.
I just want them. Given that this 3.8 million beats it Plus', we're calling it, isn't actually a should be had, which was news to me,
what has the government even bothered to proffer any excuse as to why they haven't given this money in time to coincide with the cuts they've made, so that we could have stopped some of these or potentially looked at looked at working
with bus companies to to lessen some of these costs in time, because it seems to be habit for them. I have only been, I have not been around very long, I've only been on this committee for just over a year and it seems like at every stage the government. Its last-minute decision is uncertainty and it's delay and those things in and of themselves caused damage on top of the damage that would already be done by what is always a cut. Have they bothered to, even dare to say this is why we haven't done in time
so and just to reassure them we're not waiting as a combined authority
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:25:03
to spend that money, so we're forward thinking about how it's gonna be commissioned, because we do need the money in the account before we can actually go out and commission, so we're not wasting any time but we need to know we're gonna get it,
majority come back on those several of them up, he wants to come in
shortly, but so very first of all, thank you to Members for
Simon Warburton - 0:25:24
your understanding and support for the work that the team is is undertaking.
we've been through several years of of churn, of course, what we're not alone
in in West Yorkshire,
and it's very difficult to maintain bus service improvement plan, which was written really as we were going into the pandemic.
where we currently find ourselves, it's it's incredibly frustrating.
for the team
that there hasn't been a timely process to allocate the money
we we we do have in writing that the figure.
from from the Department, so we can plan with a certain degree of confidence
but, as you say, Chair, we can't ultimately commit funds that we don't have in the bank and we've been making this very clear to departmental colleagues on a on a very regular
basis.
and the the the points around. Even services, I think, are a really well made,
we recognise that that actually increasingly.
that, particularly younger members of the community are relying on the evening economy
but for their employment, and we're looking to
make that very clear both to it to bus operators
and to to the Department, and of course it's it's it's fundamental to the vitality of our our centres.
as well that people can access them
at all times
of of the day and add and Councillor Firth is absolutely right, it's incredibly difficult to explain this situation.
to to talk to the public because ultimately, what we want to be able to do on your behalf is to engender the best possible confidence in the travelling public that public transport is still.
a logical and reliable
option for them as fundamental in terms of achieving both a sustainable public transport system, but also the wider.
objectives that we're looking to achieve
as a city region nonetheless,
and we have been working, we've helped our and Councillor Carlo.
we we, we are going to use appropriate media material to to to make it clear
but that
that level of stability
that will remain is is only there through due to timely action on behalf of the team, with with your support
as members, so we will do that but but but I think in a way as much as it possibly can do that that doesn't shake the public's confidence in using public transport,
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:28:25
thank you and just to access the entrance point and the Madrid writer first assessing Chen about the profits and the profits of that company and said, Can they really mere think about how they're pushing that pressure down the line so we can return the bus services we need?
so just so counter to that, that representation was made
and I've got Councillor Buckley now Councillor Williamson.
yeah, on page 12, at 2.00 3, the first three bullet points.
Cllr Neil Buckley - 0:28:56
to increase weekday mode share on radio routes into district centres by 5%, and the next one is to increase.
housing accessibility by core network to 55% role is that 5%, or is it 5% points?
one is the next one, what's that 55% of what and 70% of what please?
so my my understanding cherries is, is that it is is looking to
Simon Warburton - 0:29:36
increase on the base of where we find ourselves, which is 2019 base
within be set
by 5%, and then
by by 10%, the the accessibility measure
is around.
the but the level of
housing that is within, I think, if I remember correctly from Ron Rachel 400 metres, walk or access are of a of a suitably frequent
bus route,
and of course we want to continue to drive that up, it's absolutely fundamental from a modal shift
perspective and to place it into some context in terms of the challenge that lies ahead of us,
even in the evening in London, over 90% of the population is within 400 metres, walk up of a
frequent bus system, so we have some way to go
or say that some had pushing for quite frequently causes a London
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:30:46
style bus network or Councillor Williamson.
I thank you Chair them.
I want to welcome the news.
Cllr Annie Maloney - 0:30:58
about Combined Authority officers working with your council on that the super bus scheme.
there's a couple of questions and two of which.
it's the one information on black hole will monitor that scheme if there is one introduced, so don't understand if I'm right, that is publicly funded for three years and then this opera was a commitment to further run that for another two years them swatting these concerns about in Wakefield about how,
if it turns out not to be as commercially viable as many other routes, if the might be either that they are worried that they might want to pull out of that sort of service. If there is one established and
is the in terms of promote in the books. any bus service is at something that's done by site, the Combined Authority, the opera or local authorities all occur, mixture and it of all three, just to try and drive up any sort of. use that service,
thank you
once again that Nick.
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:32:05
in terms of where we think there's an order of events here, counsel in terms of
Mr Mick Bunting - 0:32:12
getting some stability in the network, with the basic plus funding that we've got and in protecting and restoring some of the services that we've talked about, that have been lost over the last 12 to 18 months, and my team have now developed a plan in which we're gonna come out and engage with each individual districts to inform the plan of how we're gonna deliver on that to to to to embed a platform on which we can deal with some of the service improvements through base in Super Bus.
so that's why we anticipate that that will be done by the end of this month, that engagement to try to get the understanding of each each district and to give us that to give us that platform on which to operate.
in terms of how
how we're going to monitor the performance of enhancements, it's a little bit too early to go into that detail at the moment what we're looking at as a priority to get that stability, getting passenger confidence in the network in light of all the recent reductions through basic loss and then using the basic principle bus funding to to enhance that that that's my level, but you are right that in years 4 and 5 of Super Bus the the model suggests that the through, but
Matt in campaigns and end, and developing and enhancing customer and passenger confidence that those new rules will become Mark commercially viable, and that's the aim of these enhancements, and that's why the investment is in there to to to give a platform for operators to to push their services forward and and it all goes hand in hand with the
Tender programme that we currently have and that we will be working.
to be working on to review through the basic plus funding, so it's a, it's a
an immediate issue with the basic plus one we've talked about
not to shall when we're gonna get that, but there is a commitment to that and therefore the plans are in place to fit to develop that and then to deal with that as a springboard into these enhancements and all that will play out in years 4 and 5 is, is yet to be seen, but that's that's the plan
I thank you very much for that
Councillor, can I
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:34:20
just want to be very briefly on the end, because the comment was made
Cllr Peter Carlill - 0:34:26
at, I think, around the just-in-time funding and I wanted to just support collected in Wakefield another of the areas south-east Leeds and Kirklees that is supported by other operators. Some operators obviously did make changes over the last 18 months, 12 months ago, when the uncertainty in the funding was, there
add a really good example. Last night I was at a meeting in Armley talking about buses and they have a service that was cut some months ago that the last bus on a Monday to Saturday 7 pm, and the last bus on the Sundays 9 pm, near asking, Why is this like this, well, the per beurre answer is we pay for the service on the Sunday until 9 pm but unfortunately the commercial service on the Monday to Saturday has been cut back now, that is a service that an operator should return really.
I don't think we should start funding what we see as core routes as that one is at that time,
but just
to reiterate that this 3.9 million million will receive some of it will be spent on restoring those services that we didn't have funding for the went by the wayside 12 months ago just as much as it will in protecting the services that we may lose and, as I say 70 plus services were lost already or reduced already but that's almost the same amount I think at risk operators are telling us if if no funding comes forward.
thank you, Councillor Cowell, and thank you for your work on this
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:35:51
paper and all the work within it as well, and so with, as no more comments or questions on this paper will move to the decisions on here. The recommendations are clear about the 3.8 million when we get it
and hopefully we get very soon we need to delegate the powers to spend it as outlined of the protests and the workshops. Actually we've had as well on this, we've had workshops to the committee and thank you for that, so can I see all those in favour of the recommendations please show
one is against.
no abstentions,
lovely, thank you that is carried.

6 East Leeds Flexibus Trial Review

so now, moving on to the next item on the agenda, then it is Leeds, flexible, us trial, and I believe this is Mick to speak to make bunting thing.
thank jar, though sorry, I'll just go through this report, take it as read though I'll quickly go through the report in terms of the purpose
Mr Mick Bunting - 0:36:48
of the report, what Deputy and sought to achieve in the the results of the review and and and thereafter saw, the purpose of the report is to update Transport Committee following a recent internal review of the demand responsive transport service
in East Leeds and to advise the transport committee the proposed early termination of the Leeds flexible service in accordance with the terms of the trial which was in in the original contract.
for the trial. So just to quickly go through what dear tea is dear tea demand responsive, transport is
different to the are fixed routes that you see out there every day on in the bus network there are flexible and agile bus service that allow passengers to on-demand call for transport at designated locations throughout the district in which they operate, it's a digitally in it enabled service which allows people to admit their bookings through a an online or or smartphone app and the aim of this pilot was to provide new bus service or a new bus service model that would improve people's access to jobs and opportunities and provide connection to rail park and ride services. and to contribute to reducing air pollution and carbon emissions,
there was some wider objectives around developing our understanding of the impact of deity
and
in improving our knowledge and understanding of new and innovative ways of helping people to get around
how to reach communities and and and and wider, and to enhance public confidence in in. public transport within West Yorkshire to interconnect people to coordinate works.
so the original costs of the service were around 3,000,001 and half million operating costs over three years and approximately the same in capital investment into the vehicles
there was a break clause in the contracts that allowed.
after 18 months, in accordance with the terms of the trial for us to exercise that brick was in this report is to respectfully advise you that that that that decision has been taken on the basis of an evidence-based approach following an internal review of the data and and
that that our teams have got through the trial
initially after six months we commissioned God travel solutions to review the impact of the trial and you can see in Appendix 1 the report that that that was done six months after the implementation which happened in September 21 and the the the review gone six months after that
where we are right now. into point 7 there are 242 passengers per week using the six vehicles or seven vehicles purchased six vehicles in operation one spare, although, as highlighted in the report, there have been some issues with the vehicles, which often means that we don't have all six vehicles on the road which has also impacted on on service delivery but 242 passengers per week on average taking 620 7. trips, which is a lot lower than we anticipated in the original business case, which set out to to seek a return of 15% of the ongoing revenue costs of 40,000 pounds per month from the 1.5 million over the three years, and these numbers work out at 16 pounds per passenger journey which is significantly more expensive than the
the 3 pounds per passenger journey criterion within our normal Non-School tendered services for social, socially necessary savoury routes and the 15% target has not been achieved and currently operating at around 12% of the revenue costs.
in terms of the achievements of the flexible us, around 22% of the trips have been made to St. James's Hospital, and that's
plots 1 one area of success here in terms of getting key workers and medical staff to work, and getting people to medical appointments from hard to reach areas deprived areas where, there is a a low percentage of people who own cars.
into the interchange on the 2% of booked trips, connected people to Crossgates Welstor Susan and 0 trips to the park and rides, and that hasn't worked out, as was originally anticipated in the business case, and 59% of service users had previously walked or use other no other modes of f public transport before using Deputy and only 9% of those
previously used car so that modal shift element is not particularly made out in these figures either.
so in relation to the basic criteria
in intend to serve in areas of deprivation and increase in area access to employment, connect in health
care in education, investing in enhance services with we've not seen that through through the debt in terms of the numbers that we've got and them we've got additional pressures in terms of
first indicating that their
initial costs for the three costs were underestimated due to the pressure that we all know about in terms of inflationary pressures, increased labour costs
and the like first of combat to us with a
a new a new price in terms of how that's going to play out into the the next 12 months if we were going to do this and in the passenger. Price per passenger journey would go up to 40 pounds so more than double what it is now. another is one that lends itself, given that these services are a first and last mile service, so relatively short journeys, the 40 pound per passenger journey doesn't stand up to any further scrutiny in terms of a business case.
so this report really goes into the recommendation is is to respectfully advise of the proposed early termination
of the service, but to reassure members of the work that is now going to take place in terms of mitigations and communications. So
in terms of the plan that were talked about with regards to the basic plus and the review of the tender programme and I'm working on the socially necessary routes there, this will now form part of those discussions and an understanding of the impact that this has had on on those hard to reach. Communities and service users are off of the flexi boss
and to establish whether anybody is now unable to move around in the way that they could as a result of the removal of the service, do an initial review of current services suggest that
this was competing with existing services rather than complementing them, which suggesting that people do have alternative services on which to on which to travel and that's borne out again by the 9% trigger with regards to people move in from modal shift from cars into into this service.
there's gonna be.
a follow up work in the area, as we said, we're going to do an area by area engagement anyway without any programme or basic plot, and will will have discussions, when we, with districts and and leaders and communities, to establish that impact and continue with our
equal I n equal IAA was done in the in the original implementation of this and we'll do another one to to establish exactly what goes. impacts are gonna be so that we can put those mitigations in place and to develop a communication plan that will kick commit communities and leaders informed, and that will help us help the transition into the other modes of transport that are currently available and that can potentially be re established on the back of the tender framework that we're gonna develop on on the back of basic plos.
and that's it.
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:44:48
thank you very much, and obviously this is something which yeah it's important to trial these things and make sure you learn from them, and I think there's some pilots across the country that are put at similar conclusions now as well, this is not an outlier in that respect
I don't know if any sorry comments or questions Councillor Hutchinson,
thank you Chair.
Cllr Colin Hutchinson - 0:45:09
Coming from representing a borough that has a large rural hinterland, where the very, very limited core network we're not going to realistically see scheduled bus services serving those smaller communities and so demand responsive travel is something we are extremely interested in. I do hope that the experiences of this trial don't pour cold water on the whole idea but are used to learn from particularly things like maybe the rather ambitious size of the vehicles to start off with, and the limited limitations and range capacity as a result of the weight and size that those vehicles and where smaller wheelchair, albeit wheelchair, accessible vehicles may promote may provide be able to provide the service at that better cost effectiveness. So I do I do hope it doesn't scotch the whole idea across the across the authority
Councillor patient
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:46:21
yeah, thank you Chair, and just to build on that really, and I think
Cllr Scott Patient - 0:46:23
what be really interesting, because clearly we keen to track how this moves and it. It's it's in its relatively early days but as Councillor Hutchinson said around the hinterlands and not just hinterlands both extremely steep hills, especially in the ward I represent, I think what we're really good is if we could have a little bit of a look across the nation where
services like these have been done in rural and semi-rural areas, specifically ones with you know, sort of you know, hilly geography and topography that be really interesting, because I think how that's managed in the subtler show social isolation, issues that come as a result because just looking at that and I'm very sorry I don't know the geography of this area that well but it looks reasonably well served in terms of amenities and in you know population densities and stuff that's less true in wards like I represent, one Councillor watches one another so just took watchful eye on that element.
I can I have now Councillor Buckley, please.
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:47:23
I wanted to
look at.
Page 23 at 2 10.
Cllr Neil Buckley - 0:47:30
wait, it says the operating range of the electric vehicles is significantly less than the 100 mile range quoted, and this is quite interesting, isn't it, because?
necessitated vehicles returning to the depot, well that's a major cost implication.
and it strikes me that if we're not careful this whole EV, range business is going to turn into another diesel.
problem that we have before
we're manufacturers just I know the particulars of this that and it was all nonsense, and I just wonder about this range business, how big was the gap between the EU, the predicted range and the actual experience?
just come back in that, never get to them, Councillor Hayden
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:48:27
shot just just to combat to all the points, Councillor Auctions and
Mr Mick Bunting - 0:48:33
Councillor Pearson, just to reassure you that a full lessons learned exercise will be conducted now and we absolutely don't rule out future. future programmes, and it will look at we're always looking at innovative ways of connecting people in in our rural semi rural communities as a as well as in our deprived areas, in in, in this case, in east in parts of East Leeds,
so that that is absolutely the next stage for us in terms of the mitigations and informing not only the review of the tendered programme but also looking at this specifically at how how it and how it hasn't worked as we expected and what that might mean for other areas, so there isn't in your words, Councillor Hutchinson, cold-water hasn't been part of it and we will keep our minds open and we're always working in effective ways to to to to to to carry people around in terms of the issuing of the vehicles Councillor Buckley, I think it was
yes, the these vehicles were commissioned
3 around two or three years ago, there's been a number of issues, with the now decommissioned no longer being manufactured as a results on the problems that have been X bit been explored, to do that, we did go back to the manufacturer,
and exercised the the the the terms of the warranty to try and fix some of these problems, but again, looking at the lessons learned, I think in terms of commissioning vehicles and the purchase of those vehicles, that's something that we will certainly look at but again as as moving forward the as technology advances quickly in this key area that that is hopefully a mistake that won't be repeated but noted in an in something that is being looked at, thank you.
and I'll be back in a minute, Councillor Buckley, just when also it
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:50:18
just mentioned in the background is that equality impact assessment can you just sort of go through what's in that just for the submit to neighbouring Councillor Buckley,
yes, so the equality impact assessment scrutiny
Mr Mick Bunting - 0:50:29
has been conducted, the problem that to some degree the problem with it is being been completely open and transparent, is that the the that we don't collect a lot data on passengers as as you'll appreciate in a commercial
world that there's very little dietary fashionability in in this area of work, the only thing that people have to register is there the the name and e-mail address to get onto the app so that the equality impact assessment has been done, but it was, it's more qualitative rather than quantitative and I think we need to look into that in more detail what I've asked my teams to do. is to start working in engaging with service users and to to do some kind of survey to try and understand the needs of the people, but to get a breakdown of of the demographic of service users, as is proving difficult at the moment, but that is work that we are trying to do just one example that I asked them in preparation for this meeting to look at. by virtue of the name and not making any assumptions of gender based on name, but looking at the names there were around 80% of service users that identified with or with a female name, and that might suggest something about perceptions of safety on on transport so that's something that we're looking into it as as a summary I wish I was expecting that I asked for it and got it that 80% figure, so that is something that would absolutely.
focus on on looking at and developing
the the the the richness of the ECU, I on the back of not having any substantive data at the moment,
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:52:04
thank you. But there's nothing in that area to suggest that this to inhibit this decisions. There's a
there's nothing Councillor and in fact we we've got accessible public
Mr Mick Bunting - 0:52:14
transport network routes for all, already in in place that mitigate this and we've not identified any individual or groups of people that will now not be able to be transported around on the back of this decision. Yes,
Councillor Buckley sorry to interrupt Karl Ora.
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:52:29
yet on this business, about the the range and all this,
Cllr Neil Buckley - 0:52:34
how much was how much was a difference between the predicted range and what actually happened because, as it stated here, this
necessity to have to go back to the depot to recharge is obviously a big cost factor and a skewed the figures badly. and did we get compensation from the manufacturers because of this
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:53:06
so, Chair, yes, I understand that there was a renegotiation of the service agreement with
Simon Warburton - 0:53:14
the with with the vehicle provider,
it remains an issue.
generally in the market for these medium sized buses that, at present,
the the industry is is struggling to bring forward the range that we would like to be able to see on this level of buses far less of an issue when we get to full size 0 emission buses partly because of,
the sheer scale of the market.
or for a full sale, full sized bus, and therefore there are bigger actors
who have addressed these issues, but it does remain
an issue at the size of a vehicle and one in many ways, part of the reason, as I understand it,
that this was brought in as a as a pilot arrangement.
thank you very much, and obviously this is something
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:54:17
that has been going across the country on these pilots, and everybody's seems to be coming to the same conclusion, Councillor Hayden.
not once thank you Chair.
just on that point about the range it depends on the time of year as
Cllr Helen Hayden - 0:54:33
well, cold weather affects batteries negatively.
as I had only found out this year,
but
and obviously if, in the cold weather, when you have to the die, Mr. Zone, when you have to have the turn on.
and
the the buses working at meal capacity, then it drains a battery, even quicker, so I mean it's all part of the learning is an
I'm gutted that this is not going to happen, I mean it's a small part of the world and I know a lot of people who love the service who have used it,
and I mean as over 240 people use it regularly every week so.
but we are quite well served, but for buses, but I'm I'm thinking about those housing estates I coltan under in the Temple Gate, in my ward, that it's that a door-to-door service that this provided, and it's really interesting that 80% have a female sounding name,
and to be really good to get some further detail because that brings into the safety aspect of having to walk to a bus, stop wait there and it might turn into a golf service and and as particularly people of a certain age I was at bus stop
last year and this lady said to me I do not have one of your magic phones you know so it she relies on the and you might get there and you might say 15 minutes or half an hour.
particularly
I know it was used a lot and the the figures have to go to St James's, which
from my house is about 10 minute drive it, St James's is in the so he does an elite lead, but for most parts of East Leeds you have to get two buses and it can take you an inordinately long time to get to St James's, I'm also really concerned about those key workers who offer they'd been using them.
and I think the learning from this, my my plea would be.
on both sides
about people getting to appointments
in one journey. I would really like to see something
developed that will plug that market. I'm thinking maybe the access bus or something something like that, and then with key workers, something if we could do something with the hospitals around getting them to
you know in in one journey. I think that we'd be really good learning to take from this, but can add end on thanking everybody. I know that the access bus team who who put this effort this into place have worked extremely hard there really sad there
I know people who were on first-name tour terms with the drivers and indeed had their mobile phone numbers, and I became really and they'd become really key part of our community, so I'd like to thank those drivers and everybody who worked on this scheme and the service that they provided for the last few years sorry, thank you.
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:57:37
thank you, Councillor Hayden, well spoken and I think just going on from that this is not the end, is it we need to find a solution for this last mile challenge that you know that that shows how many people need to go to the hospital
and and that'll be replicated entire West Yorkshire, how do you do that last mile and that is an answer which we still need to find a response
with Panama from a jar on the specific point part of the review that
Mr Mick Bunting - 0:58:01
we do in the lessons where I'm a specific way to
for the team to liaise directly with St James's to see if we can where we can work on that. problem that, as I say, the the the the there's a change, there's two bus buses required for some passengers to get St James's.
that's gonna be a specific element of the review for us to look at that and see if we can find any solutions to that issue and access bus might be it but but it's certainly in view as part of the review, so thank you for that.
thank you,
thank you very much, so we have a paper there,
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 0:58:37
I think there's.
recommendations, we note can just see all those in favour, please show.
others against.
abstention

7 Transport Policy Update

is carried, thank you very much, and moving on now, then to transport policy updates,
Rachel I think you're going to start with this, thank you yes,
thank you very much Chair.
Rachel Jones - 0:59:02
so this, at this meeting was just a couple of things to update the committee on
in this paper, so it as as per usual, the purpose of the report is to provide an update. on transport policy, developments that are relevant that are picked up elsewhere on the agenda, so if you recall, if you're on the committee at the last meeting, there was a verbal update given on active travel from for outcome,
we weren't able to give a written update because the announcement was made after the papers had been published, so we're bringing it to this meeting so very briefly the paper sets out.
what funding has been we've successfully received in previous rounds of spending specific to active travel schemes, and that's set out in table 1 of of the report at 2.00.1 and obviously that money has come through Department for Transport and now we've got active travel England, which is a subsidiary of Department for Transport. so
then it moves on the report just to give an update of the process we went through at the beginning of the year, which some of you may recall around the bid that was put in by the Combined Authority on behalf of West Yorkshire and on behalf of West Yorkshire
for a programme of a package of a number of schemes right across the West Yorkshire area
we did get an announcement on the 22 of March which was just as we went into the pre-election period and West Yorkshire was in fact successful in receiving 17.4 3 million which was one of the highest allocations may back to travelling when nationally.
the bids that were put in was six were assessed against a number of key objectives, including value for money, compliance with design, quality standards
and and some other officers some of the key objectives as well and table 2 provides a breakdown of
the schemes at I district, showing the successful ones in the amount of money allocated and whether, in each case, the money is for development of a scheme or actual delivery of the scheme on the ground, plus the right-hand column of the table does list those schemes that weren't successful
and as part of the announcement and it's important to note that there was also a change request for the Essex 60 Otley Road corridor scheme which was part of active travel fund 3.
and so there was an additional 5.6 9 million in that allocation that was made to us on top of the 17.4 3. It was that scheme that we that was approved,
so there has been some feedback provided from active travel England,
and this meeting has been set up to sort of look at that in more detail. For those schemes that weren't successful and how we look to stop develop them springing forward for any future rounds of active travel funding and active travel. England at 2.00.9 have indicated there will be a further round of active travel funding, which will probably be in autumn next year.
However, you know it has already been sort of suggested that there will be a much more fiscally constrained opportunity in previous rounds and what we previously may have anticipated,
so alongside this, the capital money
for development in delivery, there was also 2.5 3 million awarded in January. through the active travel capability fund, and that's very much around supporting scheme development and officer training to support development and delivery of schemes on the ground.
so the Combined Authority, as submitted a package, a package level strategic outline case for both the capital active travel fund for money and also the capability money, and that is subject to the next agenda item under the project approvals when we get more information about that and just finally say on on on it's that there has since the announcement there has been a number of meetings take place already between active travel England and Bradford Council and Leeds City Council and there's also been a successful first annual review meeting held between active travelling London, the Combined Authority as well and then the second bits of the report.
just provides a couple of updates with regards to Transport for the North business,
firstly, around the Strategic Transport Plan of SDP to is, it seems, to be known as an
as you're probably aware, Transport for the North is currently out to public consultation, for a draft strategic transport plan, to
you know, and obviously that plan provides lots of high level strategic opportunities and to speak with one voice on behalf of of the North and sub provides that statutory advice on Unsworth how'd son, what are strategic transport priorities are right across the North and and it provides that context by what we're doing within West Yorkshire, with the development of the new mayor's West Yorkshire Local Transport Plan, so the the SDP, too, is
built on three cost strategies around looking at the economy Independent economic Review very much looking about
rapid transport decarbonisation. and then looking particularly around socially and inclusive transport and transport related social and exclusion. So the consultation anybody can take part. The Transport for the North have had a number of
virtual workshops, drop-in sessions, some face-to-face ones as well, and obviously all the information is available on their website and the consultation ends in August, and I believe they're hoping to have an adopted
fully improved trams. Strategic transport plan at the end of this calendar year is as it goes at the moment, and then this last bit of the paper is just a quick update, then the Rail North committee, which met on the 7th of June not the 7th of July, as it reports in the in the paper, because that's today
the substantive items were around the appointment of the chairman and vice chair, which Councillor Hinchcliffe has appointed as one of the vice chairs, a second vice chair.
vote it has been deferred to a future meeting, I think also are members of the committee looked at, operate, business plans and there was a discussion on Manchester Task Force. and how what the implications are,
more broadly than just in Manchester, and looking at the general approach to infrastructure planning
and then there was an operational update.
where was honestly? the discussion around trans, benign and trans Pennine Express services, and the next meeting is September, so in section 10 and the recommendation is that the committee notes the updates provided in this report and culture.
thank you very much, Rachel
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:05:56
so a few things on this, firstly with the feedback from added travel England, can we make sure that happens in detail on each of the schemes as soon as possible, because obviously autumn that she is not that far away in terms of we've got to do the extensive work on schemes that we all put in which didn't get over the line?
and therefore
it is imperative they meet with us very soon on the detail of it, and if we could do that with the Combined Authority, active travel England and the local authority all at the same time in the same room, that'd be really helpful, is it possible, and if you need me to write a letter or pick up the phone to somebody to make that happen sooner than regrets, imagine whether a new organisation or a bit stretched, but we we do need to make sure we get that priority.
Yeah, thank you Chair. Those meetings are now in the diary and taking
Rachel Jones - 1:06:46
place in the next couple of weeks with exactly the representatives that you're referring to, so thank you.
Thank you very much.
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:06:55
I mean, obviously you mentioned Rail North Committee as well,
and what wasn't none at well north was the extensive
effects that we're gonna have. There's been just been announced on the station's. Was it really ticket offices, which is very concerning that I've just had a briefing on? I don't know, Councillor Kaushiq, did you want to say anything about,
you're reading shocking news like Gaddafi declared offices are
Cllr Manisha Roma Kaushik - 1:07:20
closing, but we are really really concerned and worried about that. Elderly people and the people, those who have got
disabilities and the those stations you are closing. They are very, very popular and one way we are saying we want to encourage the people to use the public transport. On other hand, we are closing all these stations and do well the the operators are saying there are machines,
but I can give you example, but Huddersfield hard
working and he was working, not Eddie. Everybody can have other access to do that, so very much concerned Ball,
but we are saying not to close all these things
thank you, Councillor Carter, and just to be clear these out, this is
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:08:10
government cuts on the operators, which then means that they
have to make cuts out of their own budgets, because you know it's very difficult for them to keep everything going.
agree with that, but
so just say some of this is all just come through there's only three weeks to respond to this, isn't there as well?
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:08:28
debutante come in before it reaches a list here I
feel I could come in this. I'll just give that the briefest of
Dave Haskins - 1:08:34
backgrounds around where that's come from, so people are all round, should have seen it in the press, so it's Committee's hope from that from the Rail delivery Group, but majority the thousand offices over the whole country would be closed over the next three years in according to the glass consultation of this, and this has been pushed through from Department for Transport and it's linked to issues around modernisation in the rail industry as well. But we're where we're at here and we have 69 stations in West Yorkshire, of which 19 are staffed and a proposal as things stand, is to close all ticket offices except Bradford, Interchange Huddersfield and Leeds, so some really significant impacts across West Yorkshire, as things are proposed, and not only that, I think the the wider issue is around the changes in staffing hours, whether our stations as well, so whether our waiting room where the staff will be redeployed to staffing hours will most likely be changed and reduced, so that might may mean the waiting rooms may not be open for as long as as they currently are.
there's a lot a lack of detail around this at the moment, and it's a very, very tight timescale three weeks has been given for the timescale and consultation around this.
just had some news through there's been a briefing through Transport for North this morning as his meetings going on and I think collectively across the North are looking to push for an extension on that timescale from the 28 days to 56 days which is still still which is still less than what we would we would say as are as our consultation periods that we would we would like to go with there are a number of around and for wider issues here around whether tickets ticket machines are going to sell all ticket types were to staff, whether passengers, customers going to get the best value tickets out of this, how does it work at bank holidays?
big area, I think before you you are already rich and Councillor Kaushiq is around the equality impacts of this, and I think there is a wide a wide push across the North again to push back on on the QIS and a lack of equi as has been done to date not all of the train operators have done them on these already and I think that's probably linked to the tight timescales that they've had associated with this decision being made, so we are liaising as things stand with it with other authorities we will be putting in our own representations ourselves as an authority
and taking views on that.
some sits, obviously, some serious issues which we are taking very seriously.
in Chair with your permission, can you ask her, and can you write a
Cllr Manisha Roma Kaushik - 1:10:59
letter to them and just opposing the decisions they are making it
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:11:04
absolutely on, I mean, I think they are, so this is sort of hot off the presses and I'm just reading the list here we've got
Arthur as his riotous listeners Bingley,
it's all the stations affected the Bingley Foster Square yeah so Bingley Bradford Forster Square,
L-plate Keighley Menston Shipley, Halifax, Hebden, Bridge Todmorden, Dewsbury, Crossgates Garforth, Guiseley Horsforth, New Pudsey Wakefield Wesker, and in Leeds Huddersfield and Bradford Interchange. I think it would still be reduction ticket office out at times. It's not. That would be unaffected, so that that's that's a lot of impact isn't on, and just to give us three weeks to get something in the, as you say, Councillor corporate. We should write regarding that. I'm not saying people have realised that their stations have been affected and what Councillor patient and Councillor Firth and Councillor
Edwards?
thank you, Chair, and an interest in their first report passed through
Cllr Scott Patient - 1:12:02
me about this very issue, as this means going on who we speak to, but
I just think it's important for us to remember the human element of this because it's a story in of itself but it's also a story about a less inclusive society and that means the people using it so yesterday in Pepin Bridge.
a user there talking to me, who is going to feel really digitally excluded, having that face to face with the staff. There is the only way she interfaces with buying a ticket. She's not able to do, it, doesn't have a smartphone, she's scared to use a computer because she feels like she's doesn't know what she's doing and she has tried in the past, so I think there's a real concern, and
that's this is not even sort of thinking of the issue of people's jobs as well in all of this and the safety that having a presence at station provides, so you mentioned Halifax there, so I mean it's, it's the main town in Calderdale, so all of a sudden we're saying that the main train station for the whole of Calderdale is going to have no one there, so I think I would think about an inclusive society.
Were we really missing a trick here? So cost-cutting measures are actually affecting people and we spoke spoken a lot in this meeting about inclusion and diversity and stuff and this really drills into the that so yeah, let's get people to sign on for the let's get people to feed in, but given us three weeks is is a bit of a joke. To be perfectly honest,
I agree. Looking at Halifax the usage here output is 1.1 6 5 million
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:13:28
people as as not insignificant. Is it
I had, but you have to that Councillor Firth
thank you Chair just following that it's just another this,
Cllr Eric Firth - 1:13:42
this is our plan, this is outrageous, it's just another blow to to working people travelling people,
it's shows just how incompetent, inept and out of touch this government is
and we must fight it.
failing too, has been campaigning on this for quite a long time now,
Dudley ignored by government,
and I'm
really feeling they will totally ignore us, but that doesn't stop us.
in a fight with them and try and try to change the mind,
thank you Chair,
thank you, Councillor Edwards.
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:14:19
thank you, Chair, can I strongly
endorse what's been said, and so far I would agree with all of those
Cllr Oliver Edwards - 1:14:24
points sense.
this affects my wards, it affects Guiseley, it also affects Menston which quite a few of my residents use, as, while so, I think, in addition to all of the points which been made as well,
which I think needs to be made really strong, it's about that loss of expertise, it's about the staff at all stations who do amazing work
and they fulfil so many more roles than simply selling tickets, and I think we need to. I think we need to really emphasise that also when we're thinking about people coming to our area and when we think about people come, and we've got quite a few places which are very popular with visitors but also other places that we would like to mark it
and the people who work at stations can be vital sources of information and, as I say, vital sources of support and for people feeling safe for people feeling comfortable when they're travelling and so I think we've really got to emphasise that as well and
and answer supports the are empty and working on this
and I think if we lose these people and we lose their knowledge, we're not going to get it back and I think we've really got to hammer home that point as 1 am and I just think it's an appalling proposal from the government.
Councillor McLoughlin.
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:15:51
the future. Yeah, I told you like to withdraw the comments made by all
Cllr Matthew McLoughlin - 1:15:55
the colleagues around the table. Not on these outrageous is typical. Isn't it, it's typical of a government that doesn't see people as people, it sees them as numbers, it looks at ticket offices as their for selling tickets, they don't sell that many tickets anymore because technology changing, therefore they're not value for money. They don't measure because they can't be bothered to measure how safe you feel using the transport system, how many crimes
fights assaults didn't happen because there was staff there,
the confidence you can feel, knowing that there is somebody there to ask when something goes wrong and as we can all testify in this room, things go wrong very often, particularly in the trade, in the train
sector, so maybe most people don't use ticket offices to buy tickets anymore, but see what every single one of those passengers goes to the person in uniform when the trains delayed or cancelled to find out what's going on and get that update, some call centre who will be will be getting labelled debts themselves or some machine is just not good enough. It's too totally an inhuman way of looking at a system, and that's to say nothing for
the safety and the inclusion of people with
site problems, disabilities, the elderly who need to get on and off trains with assistance, it is ridiculous
as well and not, but not wishing to sound like a talk today, can I say congratulations to you, Chair for your appointment answer.
the Vice Chair of the
Transport for the North award, for which was good, and also so how welcome the news is about the investment orders will now reckon out which is in my ward so a bit parochial, but not only by that is that the bit of the canal that needed the investment more than the others also
you can provide two or three villages commuting access through a greenway to Huddersfield, which is excellent, but also it's a flat and accessible way to enjoy the beautiful countryside which I know during Covid saved my mental health that top up bid, so
it's not all bad news, but the ticket offices, as as colleagues have said, outrageous in solidarity with the guarantee
thank you very much, and I'm obviously here very strong views about
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:17:54
the proposed closure of those offices and that so supports what Councillor Cush said about be writing a letter, Councillor Anwar.
I just want to echo in on the concerns and chasms my colleagues and my
Cllr Ammar Anwar - 1:18:07
mum is 76 years old.
if I dropped it off at Dewsbury transition and told her to catch a train to Leeds, she would need assistance of a travel officer to make sure she purchased the correct ticket to guide it to the platform without these services.
I don't think they should even have a transition that
these are the basis or basis for services for the elderly, the disabled, people, to have people that in Dewsbury, according to statistics, last year, we've had over a million passing years, get off and get on the train from that on a daily basis is 2,900 and seven passengers. so not having
officers working there is just ridiculous, and the last 13 years of this government just goes to show how out of touch they are with ordinary folk, and
every time you see a headline regarding the government is always to do with cuts and they just do not make any sense of any credibility to hold their value.
thank you very much, Councillor Anwar and Councillor Helen.
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:19:28
thank you very much Chair.
Cllr Abdul Hannan - 1:19:33
would it be possible to get an extension on this consultation because I do feel that the window of opportunity for people to come back with their concerns is very narrow and then, as a Combined Authority, we need people to engage in the consultation, could that be looked into please?
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:19:50
it's fair point, and I think there is already moves afoot to try and extend that from what you were saying, I think, was it from 28 to 56,
from 21 to 56, there's a there's a push through Transport for North, but we'll be pushing pushing so grown-up.
Dave Haskins - 1:20:02
I think it's a good point, though, because we do need to let people
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:20:06
know about this as quickly as possible, and I wonder actually, through the bus engagement leads, we need to add something in as well said, the bus engagement leads need to be enabling other people in their bus network to know about this because they're also look connected with the rail stations as well, not all the all the transport that goes in those local communities that you know they have those access to those people. Don't know really so, sorry, but it doesn't leave an awful lot of time to get people's views known. Does it and there is a problem, as Councillor Hanson
do it, and I think we're catching up loads to date to work through how we deal with that
sorry to
Dave Haskins - 1:20:40
anybody else we should be informing. I'm just thinking about it, but engagement lies, I've connection, Councillor Firth. Do you have any
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:20:46
Nobel, I just want to thank colleagues will support and our officers for doing what they're doing by just on a point of sadness, by the way,
Cllr Eric Firth - 1:20:55
in your case, colleagues
got a couple of weeks ago, we celebrated
there was a railway station 175th birthday and we had a bit of a party in front of the station on the 170 years it's always been men, 175 years man, and detect that the staff away from Deirdre,
it's absolutely appalling,
lovely little bit ready
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:21:20
now absolutely CancerCare you waving appended yours speaks yeah sorry I didn't
I wasn't quite sure
so sorry if I should have brought in.
just get
to the words of colleagues across the room is a very, very important
Cllr Matthew Morley - 1:21:29
issue, particularly when it comes to safety of the elderly, and I think for females and it's very important now we send a strong message from this meeting to lift more weight for where I'm from Wakefield West get Sorley station at the moment I from right that's gotten reception at the moment I was going to have a massive impact on weight for residents, but whatever this obviously will have massively brought wherever this happens, so hopefully you can send a massive important message from this meeting. thank you.
Thank you. Councillor Kilbane, did you want to come in, I'll say
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:22:02
you're presumably a similarly effective additional state well,
Cllr Peter Kilbane - 1:22:05
really just to support all the comments that have already been made, I mean your cows isn't on the cool list this time? Well, this is a direction of travel. It must be absolutely resisted and just wanted to express solidarity with all those who who are affected and support your in any way we can, in any any campaign, to protect the ticket officers, not not least because the call either impact or that it will have, and you know it's not just 76 year-old mums, I mean, I'm a 56 year old fairly, IT literate person and I went to try and by return to Durham the other day, huge amount of ambition and trying to work out what the most appropriate cheapest unit you need a degree in maths and computing to work the blooming things, so just ended up, pushing some random buttons and hoping they were the ones that will do it so
absolutely needs to be resisted, it's just going to actually stop people travelling on the railways at a very time when we need them to be getting back on to the railways.
it just seems like a shot and national governments are cut, this
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:22:59
doesn't they and leave us with this issue Castle, Hutchinson.
Cllr Colin Hutchinson - 1:23:07
just to clarify trustee for Halifax sat for the blind, but I have alerted the society to get our members to actually engage with the consultation and can I encourage the song to the Aids without disability access forums with or without elderly.
elderly residents of forums as well, to try and make sure that the people who are likely to be most impacted by this are aware and have a chance to actually make that have their say.
thank you,
I think it's a very good point and I just wonder if we should be
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:23:44
writing as combined authority to those access forums actually to let them know and given the opportunity to contribute to the consultation as a mill-owner.
I just like to accounts of push the point about the safety of women and girls
Cllr Jakob Williamson - 1:23:58
I never take it as out there as as protection or as bouncers at train stations, but
perceived safety is a big thing, so you're getting the train at 7.00 in the morning and there's a there's no one there if I think it is very scary so that dark places or train stations
in the shorter days so, just having someone in a uniform or is someone else then changes the
the vibe of a of the place, I think we're pushing that.
it is very important,
as absolutely vital as a very good point, well made Councillor Willis
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:24:36
roof and future just to expand upon my colleague, Councillor calms,
Cllr Annie Maloney - 1:24:39
pawn about Wakefield been the lack, the lost ticket losses we've got in the district with the worst sorry I think
erection whereby the rail light the reason for these cuts is because on the 12% of people actually using ticket offices but I think we've got about 1.8 1.9 million people using it for the waistcoat show I mean, that's what 200 that's 120,000 just stop on my head, which is a year, which is a hell of a lot of people, which, I suspect, are probably the most vulnerable elderly people with disabilities of things I ask these definitely it needs is a still is obviously a lot of demand there for you, not 31st ticket services, when we need to do all we can to keep them. Thank you
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:25:25
it's 1 comma 8 million just look at these figures, Councillor Lyons, you're absolutely right. just just 12%, and that is a huge numbers,
Councillor Roe.
yeah, I just wondered,
Cllr Eric Firth - 1:25:37
I've used ticket machines in rural towns and they're not always broken, but it's been a number of times and they have been broken, so should be pushing for some kind of reassurance that people getting on trains where the ticket machines are broken, that's going some some leaning into shirt against these fines because if I should just be incredibly unfair,
absolutely sublime, nothing else be we need to make point on in the
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:25:56
consultation Councillor Hayden
just really quickly as well.
Cllr Helen Hayden - 1:26:00
I took my I do ever used the ticket machine but off I took her to my Ukrainian guest to the person behind the desk at Crossgates and to get a ticket to Hull and it was much cheaper from that from the ticket office than at Walton the machines because they don't offer you the and that the trip to Durham is another example you can get good prices online, however
we're using those machines, you are paying above the odds
so again it's an equality issue, isn't it really so yeah needs to be
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:26:37
absolutely spot on Councillor Edwards,
thank you for points which hasn't been made so far, but which develops
Cllr Oliver Edwards - 1:26:43
on what Councillor Hayden was saying there is we have significant numbers of people, especially in Leeds and Bradford, but actually across the region, for whom English as an additional language, there are a significant number of people who either don't speak English or
who have limited English who would really struggle with one of these. machines and for those people
it's essential as well to be able to go out to people who can help them, who can support them,
and I think that's the point that we should be making as one
for all of the region, but particularly for the big cities.
thank you very much, sir, I'm not seeing anybody else indicating that
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:27:28
it was a fairly strong show support for us to make sure we we expand, probably actually on these recommendations, in this case, for just looking at that,
Sir, we note the update to the report back think I would also suggest that we need to add in those recommendations that I as chair of this committee wrote on behalf of the Committee to governments objecting strongly to this proposal. that should also go into the very short frame of consultation that we've got, I think.
and obviously you had
the consultation response should include everything that people have said today, like safe do women, girls like access for people with disabilities.
like you have to in inclusion issue about people with English, additional language and not being fined on the train, etc that is all things that can increase people's cost and cost of living crisis, and then, additionally, I think we had a third recommendation then that we
ask the Combined Authority officers to make sure that disability access groups and other groups put engagement group for example, we will also use road transport are all informed about the short reign that they have to reply to this Cif can make sure that that goes in as well,
so.
there are people OK with that is that so it's a, it's a with those additions, then can I see those in favour of the recommendations with the additional two that I've just outlined, thank you very much, all those against, please show
them abstentions, no that was unanimous, thank you very much.

8 Project approvals

and so I am now moving on to the next item project approvals
Melanie Cochrane.
yes, thank
you Chair, so we've got two items for consideration today and the
Melanie Corcoran - 1:29:19
first of those old rituals as identified in her report, so we're looking at the active travel from Trunchbull, I'm going to ask Stephen Nolan to give us a brief overview of this first item.
Thank you Melanie, yes, I'm gonna, cover active travel from chutzpah and also the capability fund, which the strategic outline case covers both of these
so
active travel from transfer is building on the emergency, active travel Fund and churches, two and three of the active travel fund,
focusing on delivering improved and safer walking, wheeling and cycling infrastructure across West Yorkshire we've been awarded just over 17 million, is a region to deliver 16 schemes
and in the capability fund programme is looking at behaviour, change interventions across the region or both the district and region, that region lead level to encourage and enable cycling week wheeling and walking access, it will also
assist in developing a pipeline of schemes for future active travel funded works by carrying out feasibility studies,
and in the capability fund, were awarded just over 2.5 million pounds, both of these bids have been funded through active travel England and have been built up in partnership between the five partner councils and the Combined Authority.
in terms of the impact of the schemes,
active travel fund will make it easier for people for more people to walk to work, education and training opportunities more sustainably and by more affordable means when compared to private car ownership, and the capability fund was part in developing policy initiatives and the development of feasibility for pipeline of schemes ready to be prepared for future funding
because, as Rachel mentioned in terms of the fifth tranche of active travel fund that will be coming soon,
and it will also have the capability and will also contribute and expand the Combined Authority's existing behaviour change programme to encourage and enable wider use of cycling wheeling and walking.
in terms of the cost of the scheme, the total cost across
the capability fund and the travel fund is 19,961,635.
and this specific request is looking for 6,024,276 pounds which is development and delivery costs about across both of those funding streams.
the decision that we're seeking is that the active travel fund transfer programme proceeds through decision Point 2 strategic outline case and work can commence on development of individual project business cases as outlined in the report, and the capability fund programme proceeds through decision Point 2 into activity 5 into delivery subject to a programme level approval to proceed.
working for an indicative approval to the Combined Authority's contribution of 19,961,006 minute 35 and for those individual.
for the individual approval of 6,024,276 thousand to be released, thank you.
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:32:47
thank you or any comments questions on that one Castle, Hutchinson.
the challenge was active travel, trumped other travel funding.
Cllr Colin Hutchinson - 1:32:57
obviously covers a range of projects, some of which will be at an earlier stage of development than others and mean I'm very. very much welcome the funding to the
skin within that largely affects my my ward.
but that's already had feasibility studies funded by central government, so I was just wondering whether
the various stages of approval needs all these projects need to be in lockstep, that nothing is approved until they're all approved or whether each one, is goes to the different stages at, or possibly separate times,
Kate Hutchinson, or are you asking for joined-up government?
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:33:51
not necessarily came our
way, so if you just stand steady but Stephanie would you be able to respond to the council's concerns,
yes, yes to the 16 separate schemes will proceed through the assurance process individually. So where schemes are developed
they can progress more quickly and we've also looked to expedite that process where possible so schemes are making use of the new business justification case as well where possible, so they don't have to do a full business case if it's not required.
thank you very much
any more questions, Council on that one, no.
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:34:31
looking at in that case, we move on to a funeral limb, I think you could reduce protection, sustainable travel corridor.
thank you Chair,
so this report relates to a change request for the A6 3 8 and Dewsbury to Cleckheaton sustainable travel corridor scheme and which extends approximately 8 4 8.5 kilometers between Oakenshaw in the north, through Cleckheaton Heckmondwike and on to Dewsbury.
the outline business case was approved in June 22 22, an indicative total allocation of 2012.8000000, the majority of which was coming from the tax big cities fund, with a small amount of active travel funding, in addition,
this change request is seeking approval to increase that's indicative budgets from the 12.8 8 million to 15.7 9 9 million and to also draw down development funding of 560,000 patents to complete the FBC for the scheme.
the increase in project costs to be funded, utilising the headroom that was creative to the cheese yet programme
following the inflation review, prioritisation exercise that was concluded in December 2022.
I am so following the approval of the outline business case, the cost of delivering the scope of the scheme that was approved have increased by around 7.1 million pounds, and the key factors that have resulted are. led to this cost increase include, obviously, the ongoing inflationary pressures on construction rates.
There has been some greater cost accuracy for the project through undertaking early contractor involvement, who have reviewed the scheme costs and provide some more great to them, sharing some of what those would be once the scheme gets the market and they've also needs to be and design of you and changes to increase the quality of the cycling infrastructure in line with the lt and 1 20 guidance. So there is now a very segregated cycle lanes along the A6 rates between Cleckheaton and Heckmondwike and also widen the lit section of the Spanier Valley Greenway,
and it's also, and it is probably that the the bulk of the cost increase. There's been design alterations to incorporates a retaining structure and avoid the need to purchase third party land for the key bustling expansion at the Chamber roundabout and this particular. This particular aspect of the scheme provides significant bus journey time savings in the peak hours
so you change request is seeking to proceed with a new preferred option which can be delivered within the revised indicative budgets of 50 points 7 9 9 million I am, and that includes the bus lane, not point 7 2 kilometers bus lane at Chamber, 1.3 kilometers of segregated cycle lane between Cleckheaton and happen like,
12 improved formal pedestrian crossings, eight junction improvements and seven new signalised pedestrian crossings.
the be upwards of two five bus stops to smart bus stops between Chain Bar roundabout and Leeds, Road, and 2.1 kilometers of widening resurfacing and lighting underspend on a greenway, as well as access improvements along that section of the symbolic greenway.
there was so what's been reduced is the removal of a signalised crossing at the junction of Wakefield Road and Leeds Road, and also there's been a reduction in the amount of widening on the spent an agreed way between the M 62 and Walkley Lane.
the BCF of the scheme is, on paper, quite low, however it does have still have a strong strategic fit through enabling
faster and more reliable journeys bus journey times and improving active travel infrastructure to support the moment, shifted possible occupants, cycling
so set out in the report and paragraph 4.7 5
we recommend that the transport committee approves the approves a change to increase the budgets
and approves the revision of the outputs of the scheme and the release of the further development funding the scheme will then progress to the FBC submission later this year October with approval expected in January and start on site March next year and completion a year later.
thank you 373 and take microphone off that please thank you,
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:38:29
so obviously,
as I go through life, I understand that BC are really the price of something, the value of nothing out there really is obviously, as already discussed in this made saying that the value of what transport does is not really always quantified,
in a government business case which saw that pound signs,
so anybody any questions comments on that Councillor for.
Cllr Eric Firth - 1:38:57
thank you Chair. This all falls under my portfolio to back or cut loose, and I've spent
another mark time we've officers going through the scheme. As you realise, we read the papers, he's already been going a couple of years now from its inception. It's along a route out point can it, because it said so in the report that a lot of destruction, but it's well worth doing, and I can't wait until until it gets to the formal business case and we start pulling spades in the ground.
Thank you and I hope you do support at college.
Thank you, and that is one of the beauties of doing this. Work is and it really is wonderful to see that change. It does take a long time,
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:39:35
it needs to plan properly, but this you know just reflect is work that will be probably benefit to our residents and businesses for many years to come.
exactly which is always good, Councillor Firth, better links from Bradford and Kirklees is something we all welcome.
the so and any more questions comments on that, so we have those schemes us in this paper, I'm happy to propose we accept the recommendations to progress them. Can I see all those in favour, please show
and against
that is carried, thank you very much officers, please get them done as quickly as possible, thank you.

9 Governance arrangements

so, moving on to the final paper on the agenda today, which is governance arrangements,
this includes.
just the new people who are on the committee, terms of reference, transport committee, jazz reference and the job descriptions of all our Deputies and myself
and also the dates of the meeting. I understand obviously Councillor Firth, isn't it quite fits with Executive meetings in Kirkley, so I understand you're permitting that you, you are not personally useful and I understand that as I don't you wanted to say something on that now,
yes, I really do feel we should have been some consultation and this
Cllr Eric Firth - 1:40:54
week remembers on all those lots of new members here but the transport committee, as funding very well for
rather than a decade, that's two decades works well on a Friday,
because the Combined Authority set these days after we've set our date back in the office, are districts, it's going to cause all sorts of problems, I'm sure for colleagues but certainly for me
and Kirklees members all of us. would like you to reconsider
these debts,
if not, what voting is for all the paper, we would certainly vote against these dates be pursued,
thank you very much, Councillor Firth, Councillor cautions.
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:41:40
Cllr Eric Firth - 1:41:44
yeah, I agree walking refer to a scene like you know when I first got appointed, I want to change the date but strongly said No, I'd be on the committee, are not to
concede it's only for one person why we are doing that.
thank you, I think it's probably more than one person, which is why I
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:41:59
do it in the first place Councillor, and what
Cllr Eric Firth - 1:42:05
you are just want a spur, or my colleagues thought some, I'm also on the Licensing and planning committees on also a planning substitute, so
the planning means could fall any day from Tuesday, when is a Thursday
and also licensing is always on a Thursday, so if there's a double mean it will cause a bit of a
hassle to get someone to substitute me over incur police a permit.
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:42:35
thank you, sir, I think it's not just one member, I think there's a few Members who struggled for Friday, so I think the idea was to move of a different days of the week, so obviously it's going to convene convenience, some member sometimes but excluding members of having at the same day of the week all the time now happy to look at sums in the future perhaps if we can make move were to that be great. in the meantime, as we do need to set these dates. So people got in the diary, so I would like to recommend we accept this paper with the proviso that will in future, thank you, our governor,
but you will consider with your two boats, even though you approved
Cllr Eric Firth - 1:43:06
them today, you may reconsider some additions.
Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (Chair) - 1:43:10
Fine clothes, more people, Councillor Firth obviously always be happy to do that, but for the moment we do need to get on with Dai rising. So if that's OK, I will, I would like to recommend we accept the paper as is and obviously, as you say, if there's anything extraordinary we can do in the future to support Coakley's colleagues in that I'd happy to do so,
so with that can I recommend we accept the recommendations here today and I see all those in favour. Please show
thank you very much against
thank you that is carried and obviously with colleagues in Coakley's will do what we can to support you with arrangements in the future, thank you very much and that in concludes the meeting today, thank you very much everyone for attending and thank you to those policies, your first meeting
and lots of exciting things on the agenda in the future, thank you very much. Ruby
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